Posts tagged relationship
Episode 13: Jesus & the Relationship of Salvation

Continued conversations about Salvation, Jesus, and the Gospels.  This arc begins in episode 9.  Culture, and how we do not have a good conception for concepts of Kingship and Lordship--submission to a leader is not a quality that American culture values.  We've divided the concepts of "Follow Me" that Jesus introduced to His disciples into conversion and discipleship.  They're not two different things. 
How do we understand salvation and what it means to be saved?  Salvation is a relationship. 
Reviewing the Hebrew definition of Knowing tied more to Intimacy than to Knowing "about" or observing like our concepts of knowing. Knowing in Hebrew is more about experience or encountering.  We need both types of knowing to engage in full relationship with Jesus.   We tend to think of Heaven as a place, instead of a relationship-- a place you go when you die, instead of abiding in a relationship with an God who saves.
Jesus, in Matthew 7, not intended to evoke fear, but to point to what saves us is relationship, not a faux relationship, or a certificate.  Jesus invites us into a relationship that transforms us, and leads us to caring for the poor and marginalized.  Heaven, in this sense, is being in the place where God's presence is. 

Susette's method of using this concept of God's presence as a form of prayer & relationship: 
1. Remember first that the Kingdom of Heaven is God's presence here on earth, 
2. Then I picture God's presence being here next to me. 
3. Picturing Jesus sitting next to me. 
4. Talk to Him.

John 1; the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, or "tabernacle'd" among us. 

Described the tabernacle and what that means from a historical & biblical context.  The temple points to holiness & being set apart.   The book of Hebrews is a good place to start in learning about the Tabernacle, and Rikk Watts:
https://www.regentaudio.com/collections/rikk-watts

John 1:51  Jesus is referring to Jacob naming the place Bethel in Genesis 28:10-22, where he saw the presence of God. 

Episode 5: Anxiety & Peace, Part 1

Anxiety is our topic in these next two episodes.  This is part of series we've done on Trauma, Anger, Anxiety and Shame.  We start with a free association game on anxiety-- there's so many words that we use to describe it!  We describe our own anxiety that morning.  

Brandon tells a story of a panic attack that he experienced after a surgery. His experience taught him empathy and compassion for those who experience anxiety and panic, but also learned that for him, anxiety is something he needs to accept in the moment, without fighting it.  

Therapeutic perspective on anxiety: 
We talk road rage: a typical Southern California conversation. 
Different words for anxiety, stress, agitation, frustrated.  Physical symptoms of anxiety are endless. Tension in muscles, limbs, forearms, chest pressure, chest pain, heart races, headaches, stomach butterflies, stomach pain, intestinal problems, flushed face & neck, etc, etc.
Anxiety effects our thinking in different ways:  we catastrophize, overthinking, thoughts going around and around, all-or-nothing thinking. 
We discuss all-or-nothing thinking, or binary thinking, and how our culture is increasingly binary. 

Spiritual perspective on anxiety: 
Acknowledging that God is sovereign and all powerful when we are feeling powerless, isolated and lonely, or helpless.  Anxiety can push us to not settle, with a lack of peace. 
How to talk about techniques, prayer, engage with God, but not in a way where there's a "formula" or a "rain dance" to bring peace from God.  We want to sit in the tension of not being able to control God while we need Him to experience peace.  Living by the Spirit should be our goal, not trying to just "do what the bible says," but to live WITH God in relationship.  

How do we resist the shame we feel when we're anxious, that we're not good enough Christians, but instead, use our anxiety as an invitation to acknowledge our need for God?

Check out Rhett Smith's book, "The Anxious Christian."

The scriptural opposite of Anxiety is peace (Shalom).  Shalom: Nothing lacking, everything made whole.
How do we dwell in peace?

Two ways that we deal with anxiety:  Moralism (doing the right thing to earn our way out) and Hedonism (avoiding the emotion, and numbing our way out).  
Brandon explained The Parable of the Two Sons (or the Prodigal Son), and how neither hedonism and moralism will help us to understand the heart of God.   We discuss our own perspective on whether we lean towards hedonism or moralism.  Susette talks her own journey down her desire line, and her history of feeling like a "good" or "bad" Christian and the shame that comes with that. 
Brandon identifies imminence and transcendence, 

Bible passages mentioned: 

Phil 4:6-7
Matthew 6
Romans 8:6

 

Episode 1: Therapy & Transformation

How are we transformed? How do we experience healing, peace, or freedom? How does our relationship with Jesus change as we stop doing what we've always been told, and begin to see Jesus in relationship above all else?
Susette talks Therapy 101: Unconditional Positive Regard (or unconditional love), intimacy, feeling understood, confidentiality, trust in therapy space. Each host tells stories from their childhood church experiences, they talk similarities about 90's Christian culture.
God's unconditional acceptance of us (love & grace that He's given us first) is what transforms us.
The more you practice empathy, the more natural it becomes.
This conversation will continue in Ep 2.

Resources:
Brene Brown Video:
http://www.susettemagana.com/single-post/2016/11/16/Practicing-Empathy

Healing for Damaged Emotions by David Seamands

Brandon's eBook: The False Promise of Discipleship http://thebonhoefferproject.com/Websites/tbp/files/Content/5277284/false_promise_of_discipleship.pdf