Posts tagged gospels
Episode 13: Jesus & the Relationship of Salvation

Continued conversations about Salvation, Jesus, and the Gospels.  This arc begins in episode 9.  Culture, and how we do not have a good conception for concepts of Kingship and Lordship--submission to a leader is not a quality that American culture values.  We've divided the concepts of "Follow Me" that Jesus introduced to His disciples into conversion and discipleship.  They're not two different things. 
How do we understand salvation and what it means to be saved?  Salvation is a relationship. 
Reviewing the Hebrew definition of Knowing tied more to Intimacy than to Knowing "about" or observing like our concepts of knowing. Knowing in Hebrew is more about experience or encountering.  We need both types of knowing to engage in full relationship with Jesus.   We tend to think of Heaven as a place, instead of a relationship-- a place you go when you die, instead of abiding in a relationship with an God who saves.
Jesus, in Matthew 7, not intended to evoke fear, but to point to what saves us is relationship, not a faux relationship, or a certificate.  Jesus invites us into a relationship that transforms us, and leads us to caring for the poor and marginalized.  Heaven, in this sense, is being in the place where God's presence is. 

Susette's method of using this concept of God's presence as a form of prayer & relationship: 
1. Remember first that the Kingdom of Heaven is God's presence here on earth, 
2. Then I picture God's presence being here next to me. 
3. Picturing Jesus sitting next to me. 
4. Talk to Him.

John 1; the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, or "tabernacle'd" among us. 

Described the tabernacle and what that means from a historical & biblical context.  The temple points to holiness & being set apart.   The book of Hebrews is a good place to start in learning about the Tabernacle, and Rikk Watts:
https://www.regentaudio.com/collections/rikk-watts

John 1:51  Jesus is referring to Jacob naming the place Bethel in Genesis 28:10-22, where he saw the presence of God. 

Episode 9: The Gospel & The Gospels
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Brandon gets to talk about his training and perspective on this foundation of the Christian faith. We talk culture, understanding our own culture, and stepping outside of how we grew up to see how others see us, and expand our worldview.

-Greek vs. Jewish worldview, and how these two are different, and bring different culture perspectives to how we read the Bible.
-ex: faith is something that you "embody," not just something that you "think."
How we are influenced by Greco-Roman thinking, shown in examples of hymns "I'll fly away."

Eternal life (heaven) begins now. If you believe it starts "when you die" then you're missing out on what Jesus can bring us now.

Susette talks about how she began to deconstruct what she had been taught in church in her first years of life, and how bible authors using language from Roman culture, to be provocative, brought her a lot of frustration and fear when she first learned it. It felt threatening to the idea biblical inerrancy to her when she first studied it.

Jesus as a revolutionary. He proclaims the Kingdom of Heaven in Mark as His first message.

The American Gospel: I'm a sinner, I can't save myself, I need a savior. Jesus died for my sins, if I invite Him in my heart, and believe he's the savior, my sins will be forgiven and I'll go to heaven when I die. All of this is TRUE, but it's not the full story of the Gospel.

We reviewed the 8 elements of the Gospel from Matthew Bates.
1. Jesus the King Preexisted with the Father
2. Jesus took on human flesh, fulfilling God’s promises to David
3. Jesus died for sins in accordance with the scriptures
4. Jesus was buried
5. Jesus was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures
6. Jesus appeared to Many
7. Jesus is seated at the right hand of God as Lord
8. Jesus will come again as judge (51)

Bible: 
Book of Mark
Romans 1:1-5
1 Corinthians 15:1-4

References: 
(You can check out all these authors on YouTube/other podcasts, too)
Our Father Abraham by Marvin R. Wilson
The Day the Revolution Began, by N.T. Wright
King Jesus Gospel, by Scot McKnight
Salvation by Allegiance Alone, by Matthew Bates

Quotes: 
"If your image of God is not a God that you can fall in love with, then your image of God is inadequate and incomplete."
"Ultimately, you have to be able to fall in love with God."
"Behind this Gospel story is a God who is ravishingly beautiful. Who is about protecting the marginalized, and the outcasts, and the poor, and the heart broken."