Posts tagged Gospel
Episode 11: Salvation & The Church

Gospel is bigger than the "plan of Salvation" or bigger than the question of "where am I going to go when I die? Heaven or Hell?" The story of the Bible in big picture is to restore the original “Garden of Eden”, where we were able to walk with God daily, intimately, unashamed. Jesus came to restore that intimacy for all of us.
Jesus breaks down tribalism. We look at denominations, and doctrine, and how we tend to leave tension earlier than we should.
Check out the Welcoming Prayer, posted on Episode 6 blog post.
Contemplative prayer connected to focus, and Philippians 4:6+7.
Cultural understanding of individualized culture that we live in in the West, and using Susette's experience with her husbands family in Mexican-American culture in examples of family centered/collectivist culture that's closer to 1st century Judaism.
How have we interpreted the idea of salvation through our Western eyes, while trying to live by the Bible, who's authors do not come from a Western American perspective culturally?

“Despite its protests to the contrary, modern Christianity has become willy-nilly the religion of the state and the economic status quo. Because it has been so exclusively dedicated to incanting anemic souls into heaven, it has, by a kind of ignorance, been made the tool of much earthly villainy. It has, for the most part, stood silently by, while a predatory economy has ravaged the world, destroyed its natural beauty and health, divided and plundered its human communities and households. It has flown the flag and chanted the slogans of empire.
Wendell Berry

N.T. Wright: The Day the Revolution Began

Here's some video/podcast recommendations for N.T. Wright: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX1GSVR0Tdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AukgNlAgiI

Scot McKnight: What is the Gospel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HdyhUQ3Krs

Podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-n-t-wright-podcast/id447840163?mt=2

Episode 10: The Gospel & The Kingdom of Heaven

What does "heaven" mean? What does "going to heaven when you die" mean? We take a look at the Gospel, Gospels, heaven and the Kingdom of Heaven.
Is heaven a place that you go when you die? Or is the Kingdom of Heaven here? We talk about how Jesus, in the Gospels talks about His message of the Kingdom, and how His coming completes God's plan for new creation.
Both tell stories of spiritual development and how our perspective started to change when we began to study the bible in college and read through the whole thing. There was a time when Susette began to be allow herself, through invitation from pastors and professors to ask questions and change her thinking.
N.T. Wright quote: "Heaven is important, but it's not the end of the world."

The Gospel: an invitation to participate with God the King in new creation that was introduced when Jesus came, loved, taught, died, and rose from the dead, conquering death, and ascended to the Father.
Our RESPONSE to the Gospel is often viewed as the Good News itself. It's not "you accept Jesus into your heart and he forgives your sins" (which is true) but not the central message


Jesus is the King. Our response to this good news is:
Confessing: Confess our sins, recognize what we've done.
Repenting: We turn from what we worshiped before.
Believing: We believe He's the King, and new creation is here.
Following: We follow Him and engage in relationship for our life.


Cognitive theory: Piaget
https://www.simplypsychology.org/piaget.html

Assimilation and Accommodation
Jean Piaget (1952; see also Wadsworth, 2004) viewed intellectual growth as a process of adaptation (adjustment) to the world. This happens through:

Assimilation
– Which is using an existing schema to deal with a new object or situation.

Accommodation
– This happens when the existing schema (knowledge) does not work, and needs to be changed to deal with a new object or situation.

Equilibration
– This is the force which moves development along. Piaget believed that cognitive development did not progress at a steady rate, but rather in leaps and bounds.
Equilibrium occurs when a child's schemas can deal with most new information through assimilation. However, an unpleasant state of disequilibrium occurs when new information cannot be fitted into existing schemas (assimilation).

Equilibration is the force which drives the learning process as we do not like to be frustrated and will seek to restore balance by mastering the new challenge (accommodation). Once the new information is acquired the process of assimilation with the new schema will continue until the next time we need to make an adjustment to it.

Jean Piaget's concept of adaptation

Example of Assimilation
A 2-year-old child sees a man who is bald on top of his head and has long frizzy hair on the sides. To his father’s horror, the toddler shouts “Clown, clown” (Siegler et al., 2003).

Example of Accommodation
In the “clown” incident, the boy’s father explained to his son that the man was not a clown and that even though his hair was like a clown’s, he wasn’t wearing a funny costume and wasn’t doing silly things to make people laugh.

With this new knowledge, the boy was able to change his schema of “clown” and make this idea fit better to a standard concept of “clown”.
New information includes disorientation, because it shakes up what we've always thought was truth.


Quote from Frank Viola, "Pagan Christianity"
“As stated previously, the sinner’s prayer eventually replaced the biblical role of water baptism. Though it is touted as gospel today, this prayer developed only recently. D. L. Moody was the first to employ it.
Moody used this “model” of prayer when training his evangelistic coworkers.

But it did not reach popular usage until the 1950s with Billy Graham’s Peace with God tract and later with Campus Crusade for Christ’s Four Spiritual Laws. There is nothing particularly wrong with it. Certainly, God will respond to the heartfelt prayers of any individual who reaches out to Him in faith. However, it should not replace water baptism as the outward instrument for conversion-initiation.

The phrase personal Savior is yet another recent innovation that grew out of the ethos of nineteenth-century American revivalism. It originated in the mid-1800s to be exact. But it grew to popular parlance by Charles Fuller (1887–1968). Fuller literally used the phrase thousands of times in his incredibly popular Old Fashioned Revival Hour radio program that aired from 1937 to 1968. His program reached from North America to every spot on the globe. At the time of his death, it was heard on more than 650 radio stations around the world.”


Recommendations to Learn More:

Dr. Matt Hague from Azusa Pacific University

Scot McKnight: "The King Jesus Gospel"

N.T. Wright: "Surprised by Hope" and "The Day the Revolution Began."  

Walter Brueggemann

Episode 9: The Gospel & The Gospels
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Brandon gets to talk about his training and perspective on this foundation of the Christian faith. We talk culture, understanding our own culture, and stepping outside of how we grew up to see how others see us, and expand our worldview.

-Greek vs. Jewish worldview, and how these two are different, and bring different culture perspectives to how we read the Bible.
-ex: faith is something that you "embody," not just something that you "think."
How we are influenced by Greco-Roman thinking, shown in examples of hymns "I'll fly away."

Eternal life (heaven) begins now. If you believe it starts "when you die" then you're missing out on what Jesus can bring us now.

Susette talks about how she began to deconstruct what she had been taught in church in her first years of life, and how bible authors using language from Roman culture, to be provocative, brought her a lot of frustration and fear when she first learned it. It felt threatening to the idea biblical inerrancy to her when she first studied it.

Jesus as a revolutionary. He proclaims the Kingdom of Heaven in Mark as His first message.

The American Gospel: I'm a sinner, I can't save myself, I need a savior. Jesus died for my sins, if I invite Him in my heart, and believe he's the savior, my sins will be forgiven and I'll go to heaven when I die. All of this is TRUE, but it's not the full story of the Gospel.

We reviewed the 8 elements of the Gospel from Matthew Bates.
1. Jesus the King Preexisted with the Father
2. Jesus took on human flesh, fulfilling God’s promises to David
3. Jesus died for sins in accordance with the scriptures
4. Jesus was buried
5. Jesus was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures
6. Jesus appeared to Many
7. Jesus is seated at the right hand of God as Lord
8. Jesus will come again as judge (51)

Bible: 
Book of Mark
Romans 1:1-5
1 Corinthians 15:1-4

References: 
(You can check out all these authors on YouTube/other podcasts, too)
Our Father Abraham by Marvin R. Wilson
The Day the Revolution Began, by N.T. Wright
King Jesus Gospel, by Scot McKnight
Salvation by Allegiance Alone, by Matthew Bates

Quotes: 
"If your image of God is not a God that you can fall in love with, then your image of God is inadequate and incomplete."
"Ultimately, you have to be able to fall in love with God."
"Behind this Gospel story is a God who is ravishingly beautiful. Who is about protecting the marginalized, and the outcasts, and the poor, and the heart broken."